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So, there's been a lot of justifiable backlash about American Dirt, because Jeanine Cummins basically exploited Latine pain for her own profit, and appropriated a Latina identity by citing her Puerto Rican grandma when a few years ago she identified as White. Anyway, I've read some pretty scathing critiques of the novel written by Latine authors, and I'm increasingly feeling anxious about my own novel project.

My own novel, for those of you who have forgotten or didn't know, is about a transmasculine person in Victorian London. And I've had some angst about writing this novel since I'm cis, and now I have more angst about writing this novel. Anyway, but there were some questions that Myriam Gubra posed to writers who want to write about characters from a group they're not a part of, and I thought it'd be a good exercise to answer them:

“Why do you want to write from this character’s point of view?”

I saw The Abominable Bride, and how they made Molly Hooper a cross dressing woman who disguised herself as a man to get ahead, and I was like, "wouldn't it be cool if he were trans?" and that was basically what got me thinking about writing this story. I feel like there are lots of stories about women dressing up as men to do things that women aren't allowed to do, and those are cool stories, but I also feel like I'm not convinced they're true stories? Just, as a cis woman, I can't imagine pretending to be a man 24/7, and I can't see why anyone would--unless they were either trans or gender non-conforming to some extent. So I feel like actually a lot of these "women who dressed as men" were either trans or otherwise gender non conforming, and I wanted to write a story about a transmasculine person in a historical setting because I feel like that story isn't told as often. And I really wanted to write from the POV of character finding their place in the world and finding community, which is what I have kind of always been looking for as a Mexican adoptee adopted by White people, but I didn't want to write that story because I don't want to write an autobiography, so writing about a character looking for a different kind of identity and belonging seemed like the thing to do.

“Do you read writers from this community currently?”


I do and I don't. I mean, I definitely try to read fic with trans characters or written by trans authors. But I haven't read any regular published books by trans people, and I definitely should. I'd been focused on finding trans sensitivity readers, but I definitely need to do more reading. And more research!

“Why do you want to tell this story?”


So, this is the one that concerns me. Because I do feel like I've maybe been a little "savior-y" in that one of the reasons I want to tell this story is because I feel like there aren't a ton of trans stories, and I know that not all trans people want to write trans stories, but I can and maybe having that story out there will help people see themselves represented and that'd be neat. But then, isn't some transmasculine person presumably better qualified than me to tell this particular story?

Also, and this maybe feels like the "but my Grandmother is Puerto RIcan, I'm Latina," I'm bisexual. So, while I'm not trans, I still feel that I'm still part of the broader queer community. I have lots of trans friends. I consider myself a trans ally. But I'm worried about wanting to tell this story for trans people is patronizing. 

And the third reason is that I'd just like to see some fucking diversity of queer representation. Maybe I'm biased because fanfic, but I feel like almost all queer media is m/m. And I's super like to see some other kinds of queer expression. That's also why I decided, after LOTS of angst, not to make Molly/Colin a trans man. Because then my story would be m/m. And my Sherlock would be gay. Not that there's anything wrong with m/m or gay!Sherlock. God knows I've read a lot of it. But a Sherlock who is usually attracted to men but maybe might just go for a woman under the right circumstances and a Molly/Colin who is usually a man but might be a woman under certain circumstances is more interesting to me because it's been done less? Not saying that being bi or genderqueer is inherently more interesting than being gay or binary trans, but I certainly feel like there's less of it which therefore makes it more interesting to me (and also potentially shrinks my audience because there's definitely a bigger audience for m/m romance but I'll worry about that later).

Finally, I just, don't get many ideas for original writing. I haven't written an original novel in all the years I've been writing because I haven't had an idea for one. And now I'm like a dog with a bone and I'm like, please don't take my bone away from me.

Anyway, I'm still going to write this novel. But I guess I should go read some transgender people's memoirs. 

Date: 2020-02-01 04:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pennypaperbrain
I sympathise with this a lot, as you know, but I’ve written a few false starts to this comment, all of which risked the kind of fail that arises from a person in a more overall privileged position holding forth on sensitivity.

It just looks like you’ve thought this through really hard, and your own positive feelings are probably a good guide for that reason. And American Dirt is making a load of white money out of Latine suffering; but I don’t suppose you’re gunning for a big cisgay dollars payday out of trans tragedy porn.

Date: 2020-02-01 05:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] clevermanka
In the conversations I've heard and had with various people in the YA author community about representation and such, the impression I've gotten is that representation is great--just don't try to tell the personal story. In other words, it's great to have a trans character, but don't make the story about being trans.

Best wishes navigating this. It's a tricky thing, for sure.

Date: 2020-02-01 05:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drinkingcocoa
As far as I can tell, the problem with American Dirt was less with the book itself (it has problems and stereotypes, but so do a ton of books) and more that the publisher gave the author a seven-figure advance and marketed the book as speaking for the entire issue.

You should be fine. You're conscientious and always considerate. No one is going to market your writing as something it's not. The world needs more than autobiography.

Date: 2020-02-01 09:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tei
I think my thoughts are along the same lines as what [personal profile] drinkingcocoa says. I mean, I haven't read American Dirt, and have been only peripherally following the discussion about it, but it sounds like it is... a bad book, in multiple different ways. And like... there are a lot of bad books, because there are a lot of ways that writing can be bad. Which is a word I'm using a little facetiously here, but by "bad" I think what I mean is that there are a lot of books that are boring or unimaginative, and there are many books that show in the writing the author's poorly-thought-through attitudes towards other people and groups, and I think those two things are actually part of the same continuum of what we could shorthand as just being not-good, bad, shitty writing, to various degrees.

And the vast majority of the really bad books just... exist. Not that many people read them, and hopefully the author learns and grows and becomes a new person like all of us are trying to do every day, but the fact remains that they wrote a book (or a fanfic, or whatever) that showed who they were at a certain point in their life, with certain attitudes, and that's... OK. Bad art is allowed to exist. It has to exist for art to exist at all, and I think the definition of "bad art" necessarily has to include art that is bad because it's prejudiced in some way, because... that's one of the many ways that we as writers can be underdeveloped. We don't live in a vacuum, nobody can escape having the world in all its fucked-uppedness encroach on their minds. We all just try our best. My university band conductor used to say "you can't play better than you can," and I think that's true of writing as well. You can't write from the perspective of the smarter, better version of you that you're hopefully going to become.

So as far as I've read, the major problem with this book isn't that it's a shitty book, although it is that. The problem is that the publishing industry looked at this particular shitty book, and completely missed all of the ways in which it is shitty, and threw an absolutely mind-boggling amount of money and prestige at it before it had even been published. Which says so much about the people who hold the power in the publishing houses that engaged in a bidding war on this book, and the NYT and lithub and all the other people who decided to put it on best of lists and praise it and encourage other people to read and buy it, because it's supposedly representative of an experience that, according to people closer to that experience than the author, it actually isn't representative of at all. So all that money, that is going towards this thing BECAUSE it is supposedly about a specific thing, has been misdirected. There are places and people where that money SHOULD be going, that it isn't.

So... I guess the way that relates to you is that first of all, I don't get the impression that you're gunning for, or in a position to, have that kind of media reception to your book ;) I guess that's basically what [personal profile] pennypaperbrain summed up much more succinctly than me with "I don’t suppose you’re gunning for a big cisgay dollars payday out of trans tragedy porn." But also just... yeah, I don't think that this has to be a reason that you get your bone taken away, because you deserve this bone and you have fascinating thoughts about it. You're not stealing anything, you're writing about feelings you feel and have an interest in, and you're not taking away money or prestige from other people while you're doing it.

Date: 2020-02-02 12:44 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] clevermanka
Mmm, sorry, I phrased that poorly. "Don't make it about the process of being trans." So, like, a found-family story that is informed by the main character being trans = Okay. A coming-out story or a discovery of main character's trans self = Not Okay. I should also mention that it's been a while since I was involved in those conversations so general thoughts about this topic may very well have shifted.

Date: 2020-02-02 12:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] clevermanka
Ah, got it. Sounds like you're approaching it as best you can. Good luck!

Date: 2020-02-02 08:50 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] solrosan
This is a really interesting excessive! I have a monster of a fic that I have similar concerns about and I will definitely sit down and do this to reflect on my motives a bit more.

I'm a queer cis woman, so my opinion here might not carry much weight for the particular issue at hand, but the fact that you have these concerns and going by the fics of yours I've read, I'd say you're ahead of so many writers already when it comes to dealing with sensitive topics.

The idea of just writing what you know or have personal experience with is why there are so many journalists running around solving crime and it's quite boring. Smaller communities often have to rely on people outside the community to tell some stories, or else there would be too few. Far from everyone in a community is a content creator (and even fewer are good at it). It should - if possible - be done with the help and/or inclusion of the community, and you seem to be on that! I have the utmost faith that you'll be able to tell this story in an sensitive and interesting way!

Date: 2020-02-03 02:06 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] vulgarweed
I haven't read American Dirt and I'm not going to, but I've read some of the justifiably angry commentary and it really seems like a perfect storm of awfulness: the author isn't only writing about a community she isn't part of, but also writing it in a very stereotypical way, and also showing that she doesn't know as much about Mexican culture as she thinks she does, and also getting a huge advance that actual Latine writers don't, and also having a ridiculously tasteless launch party with a barbed-wire aesthetic motif, and....

I have a feeling that you've already done more soul-searching on this front than that author already has. And the questions you're asking yourself are very important ones.

The easiest thing you can address right now, I think, is to read more books by trans authors. I'm cis too and I don't have a comprehensive rec list but there's a very good annual collection of SFF by trans writers that's been running for several years now and has a LOT of varied perspectives: Transcendant 1

Edit: I bring that up as something you said you were concerned about. Do you follow Bogi Takács on Twitter, the editor of some of those anthologies? E is agender and sometimes has a lot of good trans recs. https://twitter.com/bogiperson
Edited (wanted to add another link) Date: 2020-02-03 03:03 am (UTC)

Date: 2020-02-07 05:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] clevermanka
Just read this essay about a white woman's reaction to American Dirt and thought you might be interested.

Date: 2020-02-09 01:06 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] clevermanka
I read that article and seriously the first thing I thought was "oh, [personal profile] anarfea's gonna be fine" XD

Date: 2020-03-01 09:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] solrosan
I'm way late in replying here and you might have moved on completely, but I just wanted to say that it was 'By His Dirty Hands' I was thinking about and that I really, really think you handled that topic so well.

And yes, experiences that are that personal will always ring true to some and less true to others.

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